Just realized we have a term to describe behaviors like calling nonfree software "open source" (like redislabs and it's imitators), or borrowing from creative commons to name a nonfree license "the commons clause", or designing self-serving software which is open source but lacking freedom in important ways (like signal)
Let's start calling this stuff "nonfree gaslighting"
@kaniini hm, I think "gaslighting" is more evocative. *washing is more vague and linguistically speaking the listener may not be a victim of it
@kaniini anyone can be gaslit, though
@sir this one extremely pisses me off
@sir oh man I see this a lot when Discord users try out Matrix and get confused about what a "server" is
@sir signal clients are free and open source software and the signal itself is a proprietary service. The signal clients are mostly useless and worthless without the service. It's better do not focus only on software licenses but ask which key part does a product or a service does actually provide and is it free or not.
@sir @dev_ponies that's fair, I think we're a while away from seeing any kind of scenario where the CNPL in particular sees an actual, practical application. I just made that variant of the NPL as a nod to the CSL and in hope that maybe I am wrong and it might be useful to a software development cooperative making public software (rather than acting as corporate consultants) I'm unaware of.
The NPL is more likely to actually see applications and designed as a solution to an actual problem in the FLOSS community. Dealing with how the definition of software freedom has deviated from the original goals (if you were to take free software, free society, at face value).
@grin redis*labs* uses their own nonfree source-available license. They took a while to remove "open source" from all of their marketing material (like several months"
@sir so they've removed it? wha's your complaint about then? 🙂 you should be happy, right? RIGHT?
@sir oh. unfortunately there was probably nothing I could agree with in your article, either the statement or the suggested effect. I've expected something deeper than google(-play) bashing. 🙄
@grin then read deeper 😑
@sir I've made comparisons between apps providing various level of security, privacy, anonimity, reliability and usability and I could say bad things about signal and others, but your blog haven't showed me problems, just your opinions. It's fine, but I kinda expected deeper. Google (GCM) bashing is too simpleton to me, sorry.
There is already a name for this, I can't remember it right now.
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