You can charge for material things - paper, ink, packaging material, the time of the workers to prepare it. You can even charge for bandwidth, server upkeep, and electricity. But information has no material cost and therefore cannot be sold.
Exercise civil disobedience: it's your obligiation as a good citizen to be a pirate. We can negotiate again when they change the law to make copyrighted works enter the public domain within our lifetimes.
@sir Hey, if you can abolish capitalism so artists can get paid without the copyright system, awesome, that is a great alternative
Let me know when you've got that done OK?
@wizard capitalism is not incompatible with feeding people
@wizard I'm saying that abolishing capitalism is not a prerequisite for making sure authors can make a living without copyright
@sir ok, whatever that is you are planning to do to make sure artists get paid anyway, let me know when you've got that done and I'll totally get onboard with a general abolition of copyright.
Cause there are hella problems with copyright but there is no alternative for ordinary working artists right now and copyright abolitionists don't seem to prioritize it and don't seem to acknowledge that not every copyright holder is fucking Disney
@xj9 @sir The fact that it's fairly easy to invade people's privacy doesn't mean we are "de facto beyond privacy" and penalties for stalking, doxxing, involuntary porn, etc need to be eliminated. "It's very easy to do a thing, and difficult to keep people from doing a thing" doesn't mean "that thing is OK and laws against it need to be eliminated."
@xj9 @sir Actually selling physical records without copyright doesn't make any sense because copyright is the only thing establishing that the artist has an exclusive right to sell their digital records. Same with streaming royalties, without copyright the streaming service has no reason to pay you royalties. And digital sales: you only ever get to sell one copy, after that people can openly offer it for distribution without penalty. Same with merch. All this *requires* copyright.
Still reduces the artist to hoping their fan club is sufficiently benevolent to voluntarily support them at a sustainable level. Which, well, sometimes they are.
But I haven't seen anything suggested that could replace it, by the "COPYRIGHT SUXXX0RS" crowd. Nor any suggestion that it's important to replace it before kneecapping independent artists who just want to get paid for their work.
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