DRM is evil. If someone won't sell you DRM free media on your terms, pirate it. RESIST.
@sir I keep wondering, is it worth the effort to create software that helps stripping DRM, cookie prompts and other forms of evil?
@wasamasa is this even a question? always yes
@sir It's weird, because there are things I just *can't even get* because I'm not in the country of origin, requiring me to pirate by default if I want access. I have money, I'm willing to pay, but no one is selling.
(stupid kpop addiction)
@nathand @sir this ☝️ ... I've moved between 3 countries in the past decade and every time I encounter this problem in one way or another (another reason why I think the EU is not so much a union as they say but that's a topic for another thread) ... even accessing stuff that I previously bought can be complicated because you're accessing it from a different country ... DRM is total BS
@sir I'm not defending DRM, but how should it work for libraries?
I'm annoyed because I started reading a book I downloaded in a slave app on a slave phone from my library, and I have seen how Koreader performs with real files -- and I can't use Koreader on the library book.
The slave app sucks. No configurable margin, no selectable color theme, no heuristic fixing of bad text formatting.
Should libraries revolt and just become pirate collections handing out free files?
@progo >how should it work for libraries
Libraries must be exempted from copyright law, as it is a fart compared to their duty to spreading and conserving knowledge. The library should freely decide, without consulting third parties, what knowledge they deem should be archived and therefore accessible to its audience. If a proprietary document is deemed important, this means library visitors will be able to access and copy it. Ideally, the library removes DRM and other curses first.
@progo @sir I would be reasonably happy with a "dummy" DRM flag that didn't actually stop you from doing anything but triggered readers/file managers to pop up a little warning if you copied it saying "hey, remember you're not supposed to distribute this."
You don't have to agree to intrusive EULAs and use proprietary software to read physical books, you shouldn't have to for ebooks either. But there's also friction involved in copying a physical book that's not there with DRM-free ebooks.
@progo @sir You could similarly have a flag that readers could respect that's like... "hey, you checked this out from the library and that's expired." So long as the reader app was free software, honestly I'd be fine with it.
Yeah I could go and change the source code but you're not allowed to keep library books longer than you've borrowed them for so like... I wouldn't?
Just spec it out, publicly document it, and assume good intent.
@sir the family that lives on SV Zatara and does the TV show "Sailing Zatara" only acquires movies by buying DVDs in convenience stores. The mom (who is IT sysadmin) did a segment about how she has a whole processing pipeline finely tuned: copy/decrypt to hard drive; MakeMKV; Handbrake transcoding to mp4; watch on any system in the boat via Wifi.
@sir It works great because DVD Video is effectively not DRMed, due to cost restrictions and snakeoil math. :^)
Meanwhile, hollywood doesn't accommodate cruisers with any alternative to DVDs.
@sir Better: Boycott it. Support creators and distributors that don't use DRM, rather than pirating and spreading content that still relies upon such mechanisms of protection.
@alcinnz Cool. Thanks. Quite some interesting things on that list. 🙂 Actually, that's another reason why I keep supporting entities such as #bandcamp rather than #spotify (for music), #gog (for games) or #humblebundle / #storybundle for books: Make sure media can be downloaded as files, too, and used offline without requiring being logged in to any system (also for practical reasons).
Exactly. In this attention economy, just watching/listening/reading content is supporting more of the same, regardless of whether you paid with money or time. So what do you want to see more of in your society?
My way of resisting is to buy DRM free media. Those that are actually trying to do good see no benefit to anyone pirating DRM media. Better to putyour money where your mouth is and support those doing what you want to see.
@PublicNuisance do both IMO. This high road argument gets trotted out a lot but there's nothing wrong with stealing something which won't be ethically sold to you
You try to justify your actions however you want. Matters not to me. I have my principles, you have whatever you have.
@PublicNuisance principles. Mine are also called principles.
They cheat you. They say the book is DRM-free and when you buy it they print your name and e-mail in the pages before send you ☹
@sir Not quite wrong, but not quite right, either. Buy it the same way you would if it were DRM-free. Then do what's needed to make it DRM-free. That way you get to preserve your property, the creators get paid, and the end product is still defensible under fair use, so you're not necessarily a criminal.
@sir Support DRM-free content whenever you can, but don't use DRM as an excuse to get content you don't deserve.
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